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	<title>Comments on: Down to the Wire in North Dakota</title>
	<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/</link>
	<description>Fathers, Family and Divorce in America</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FamilyLawyer</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>FamilyLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shared Parenting might stand a chance of someday passing of the supporters of that concept will stop blaming everyone else for it not being the norm.

You people all share at least 50% of the blame for not not having your kids an equal - or close to equal - amount of time.

You find it easier to blame everyone else for your post divorce problems than to change your own behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shared Parenting might stand a chance of someday passing of the supporters of that concept will stop blaming everyone else for it not being the norm.</p>
<p>You people all share at least 50% of the blame for not not having your kids an equal - or close to equal - amount of time.</p>
<p>You find it easier to blame everyone else for your post divorce problems than to change your own behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-13</guid>
		<description>Analyzing a divorce is like analyzing a robbery.

After the study, the robber will still have your stuff.

One way to avoid a robber is to stay out of their path.

However in divorce, the robber is supported by a government who is organized, secret, and well funded, and a culture that refuses public dialog.

The consequences of divorce is the white elephant in the room. It's there...everyone sees it, yet few are willing to mention it.

It's a easier conversation in a feminist's world to say the father/husband was emotionally abusive.  American culture hates fathers.

Fighting each other will divide us. This keeps us from building into one another, to grow stronger, tp share knowledge or successes, to organize against the real enemy. 

Be cool to one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Analyzing a divorce is like analyzing a robbery.</p>
<p>After the study, the robber will still have your stuff.</p>
<p>One way to avoid a robber is to stay out of their path.</p>
<p>However in divorce, the robber is supported by a government who is organized, secret, and well funded, and a culture that refuses public dialog.</p>
<p>The consequences of divorce is the white elephant in the room. It&#8217;s there&#8230;everyone sees it, yet few are willing to mention it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a easier conversation in a feminist&#8217;s world to say the father/husband was emotionally abusive.  American culture hates fathers.</p>
<p>Fighting each other will divide us. This keeps us from building into one another, to grow stronger, tp share knowledge or successes, to organize against the real enemy. </p>
<p>Be cool to one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-12</guid>
		<description>wls,

You are an idiot.

You sit there and complain without a plan except to "analyze" the problem.  

And, that is the problem... Idiots like you that think analyzing what I and others that have actually got off their butts to do something have already done.

Go ahead...  Keep trying to re-invent the wheel...  I'll be dead and gone in the next 50 years and the problem(s) will still be here as you "analyze" the problem..

It's your ilk that begets more stupidity and more arm chair generals that want to tell others how to do it by repeating the failures in the past because you are too stupid to look at history, realize the apathy and do something radical that will work, such as just not playing their game anymore...

It's what all the great leaders have done when others will participate.

I get so impatient with stupidity, apathy, name calling by people like you that can't tell a hole in the ground from their own asshole...

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wls,</p>
<p>You are an idiot.</p>
<p>You sit there and complain without a plan except to &#8220;analyze&#8221; the problem.  </p>
<p>And, that is the problem&#8230; Idiots like you that think analyzing what I and others that have actually got off their butts to do something have already done.</p>
<p>Go ahead&#8230;  Keep trying to re-invent the wheel&#8230;  I&#8217;ll be dead and gone in the next 50 years and the problem(s) will still be here as you &#8220;analyze&#8221; the problem..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your ilk that begets more stupidity and more arm chair generals that want to tell others how to do it by repeating the failures in the past because you are too stupid to look at history, realize the apathy and do something radical that will work, such as just not playing their game anymore&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what all the great leaders have done when others will participate.</p>
<p>I get so impatient with stupidity, apathy, name calling by people like you that can&#8217;t tell a hole in the ground from their own asshole&#8230;</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: wls</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>wls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-11</guid>
		<description>See: just as I said; Eric is an example of exactly the kind of crackpot that I was talking about.

I don't know the Illinois law mruffolo refers to, but `equitable' in a legal context usually denotes the procedures of the old Courts of Equity, which were distinct from common law courts.   I don't think his remark makes sense.

It's time to wise up: analyse the problem honestly and know what we are talking about: while fashionable, this head-in-ass approach isn't working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See: just as I said; Eric is an example of exactly the kind of crackpot that I was talking about.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the Illinois law mruffolo refers to, but `equitable&#8217; in a legal context usually denotes the procedures of the old Courts of Equity, which were distinct from common law courts.   I don&#8217;t think his remark makes sense.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to wise up: analyse the problem honestly and know what we are talking about: while fashionable, this head-in-ass approach isn&#8217;t working.</p>
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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-10</guid>
		<description>In Illinois State law reads "equitable" treatment, but "local rules" and case law is where the rubber meets the road.

However at the end of the day, it's about jobs for people in the divorce industry. I observe that for simple matters they drag it out at the expense of the man, both money and reputation.

Divorce is easier than marriage. For marriage you need two people to agree, however, in a divorce you need only one.

It's no wonder ex-husbands have been running and hiding for the last fifty years, Most are not running from their family but are being chased out by feminist moms and our government.

About 80% of woman initiate because there is no shame, instead woman are rewarded with children, 18 years of income, and property. All approved and enforced by the worlds most powerful government.

If you have not read any of Baskerville's articles, then I would encourage you.

http://www.stephenbaskerville.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Illinois State law reads &#8220;equitable&#8221; treatment, but &#8220;local rules&#8221; and case law is where the rubber meets the road.</p>
<p>However at the end of the day, it&#8217;s about jobs for people in the divorce industry. I observe that for simple matters they drag it out at the expense of the man, both money and reputation.</p>
<p>Divorce is easier than marriage. For marriage you need two people to agree, however, in a divorce you need only one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder ex-husbands have been running and hiding for the last fifty years, Most are not running from their family but are being chased out by feminist moms and our government.</p>
<p>About 80% of woman initiate because there is no shame, instead woman are rewarded with children, 18 years of income, and property. All approved and enforced by the worlds most powerful government.</p>
<p>If you have not read any of Baskerville&#8217;s articles, then I would encourage you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stephenbaskerville.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.stephenbaskerville.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-9</guid>
		<description>"This is one of those â€œput up or shut upâ€ moments. Letâ€™s make sure the Shared Parenting campaign is well-funded in the final stretch."

How true, John...

And, that is why it will lose in ND or any other state.  People and especially men, I have found, are all talk and no action particularily when it comes to their rights being trampled upon by a run-a-way system supported by black robed activists with their own personal agendas perpetuating the existing atrocities for their own financial gain-damn the children and while you are at it, toss the men out on the streets with just the clothes on their back-damn their so called Constitutional rights.  This way, they, the feminazis and one world governmentalists such as Hillary Clinton, can place the more maleable females that want a socialist government overall, to head the family to make each generation weaker and weaker to governmental intervention.

I wish it was different, but it is not.  All we have to do is look at the men reinventing the wheel as they bang their heads upon that proverbial wall for the last 50 plus years, when all it would take to solve this dilemma would be to stop playing their game for 3 months.  Just 3 months is all it would take to turn the system on its' heels and make equality the law of the land instead of making women "more equal" than men and children.

I pray that I am wrong, but I know better...

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is one of those â€œput up or shut upâ€ moments. Letâ€™s make sure the Shared Parenting campaign is well-funded in the final stretch.&#8221;</p>
<p>How true, John&#8230;</p>
<p>And, that is why it will lose in ND or any other state.  People and especially men, I have found, are all talk and no action particularily when it comes to their rights being trampled upon by a run-a-way system supported by black robed activists with their own personal agendas perpetuating the existing atrocities for their own financial gain-damn the children and while you are at it, toss the men out on the streets with just the clothes on their back-damn their so called Constitutional rights.  This way, they, the feminazis and one world governmentalists such as Hillary Clinton, can place the more maleable females that want a socialist government overall, to head the family to make each generation weaker and weaker to governmental intervention.</p>
<p>I wish it was different, but it is not.  All we have to do is look at the men reinventing the wheel as they bang their heads upon that proverbial wall for the last 50 plus years, when all it would take to solve this dilemma would be to stop playing their game for 3 months.  Just 3 months is all it would take to turn the system on its&#8217; heels and make equality the law of the land instead of making women &#8220;more equal&#8221; than men and children.</p>
<p>I pray that I am wrong, but I know better&#8230;</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: wls</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>wls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-8</guid>
		<description>The sad truth is that the response from `family defenders' on the internet---the blogs, e-groups, some websites---has been overwhelmingly derogatory: the Initiative and everyone who defends it has been derided, ridiculed, condemned, or, at best, stiffed.

Some say family law is already OK and the problem is just that the judges don't follow it, behavior which will continue even if you reform it.   We should instead be enforcing the law against the treason they commit when they violate their oaths of office, they wail.

Others are saying the North Dakota welfare director's allegation that the state will lose IV-D funding is entirely correct, and illustrative of the truth that child support must be abolished absolutely, first, before equal parenting legislation can be contemplated.

All take considerable pride in their non-engagement and the distance they keep from politics: they wouldn't be caught dead near a hearing or public discussion, or probably at a polls.   The movement they draw their inspiration from and most admire is that which contends the income tax is invalid---a fraud---and no one can actually be sanctioned or jailed for failing to pay and file a return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad truth is that the response from `family defenders&#8217; on the internet&#8212;the blogs, e-groups, some websites&#8212;has been overwhelmingly derogatory: the Initiative and everyone who defends it has been derided, ridiculed, condemned, or, at best, stiffed.</p>
<p>Some say family law is already OK and the problem is just that the judges don&#8217;t follow it, behavior which will continue even if you reform it.   We should instead be enforcing the law against the treason they commit when they violate their oaths of office, they wail.</p>
<p>Others are saying the North Dakota welfare director&#8217;s allegation that the state will lose IV-D funding is entirely correct, and illustrative of the truth that child support must be abolished absolutely, first, before equal parenting legislation can be contemplated.</p>
<p>All take considerable pride in their non-engagement and the distance they keep from politics: they wouldn&#8217;t be caught dead near a hearing or public discussion, or probably at a polls.   The movement they draw their inspiration from and most admire is that which contends the income tax is invalid&#8212;a fraud&#8212;and no one can actually be sanctioned or jailed for failing to pay and file a return.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dias</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-7</guid>
		<description>I haven't been much help because I live outside of North Dakota.  But I made a donation today.  I hope everyone who reads this will also make a donation:
http://www.ndspi.org

This is one of those "put up or shut up" moments.  Let's make sure the Shared Parenting campaign is well-funded in the final stretch.

John Dias
Founder, DontMakeHerMad.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been much help because I live outside of North Dakota.  But I made a donation today.  I hope everyone who reads this will also make a donation:<br />
<a href="http://www.ndspi.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ndspi.org</a></p>
<p>This is one of those &#8220;put up or shut up&#8221; moments.  Let&#8217;s make sure the Shared Parenting campaign is well-funded in the final stretch.</p>
<p>John Dias<br />
Founder, DontMakeHerMad.com</p>
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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update.

Good Luck ND.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update.</p>
<p>Good Luck ND.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
		<link>http://stephenbaskerville.mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/31/down-to-the-wire-in-north-dakota/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By all means, vote for the shared parenting initiative.
If I have not been of much help it is because I am 24/7 busy all the time!
And while you are at it, North Dakotans, feel free to scream for the enforcement of the Peonage Law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By all means, vote for the shared parenting initiative.<br />
If I have not been of much help it is because I am 24/7 busy all the time!<br />
And while you are at it, North Dakotans, feel free to scream for the enforcement of the Peonage Law.</p>
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